Alice Flarend, a former nuclear engineer, earned a PhD in Curriculum and Instruction from the Pennsylvania State University and has been a high school physics teacher for 30 years. She was awarded AAPT's Paul W. Zitzewitz Excellence in K-12 Teaching Award in 2023. Her research interests include making quantum physics accessible to the K-12 classroom and how teachers learn new content and pedagogy, especially in creating a discourse rich classroom. Dr Flarend has two decades of experience providing teacher professional development in physics including classical, nuclear and quantum physics.Robert Hilborn received his PhD in physics from Harvard University in 1971. He served as a physics faculty member at Oberlin College, Amherst College, the University of Nebraska-Lincoln, and the University of Texas at Dallas. He has had many decades of experience doing quantum physics research in atomic, molecular, and optical physics and teaching quantum mechanics to undergraduate students. He is author of Chaos and Nonlinear Dynamics: An Introduction for Scientists and Engineers (OUP 1994). He recently retired as the Associate Executive Officer of the American Association of Physics Teachers, where he was principal investigator for several nation-wide physics education projects funded by the National Science Foundation.