Kathy Beevers, Chartered FCIPD, was the Chief External Quality Advisor for CIPD. She continues to work as an Internal Quality Advisor for Apprenticeship End Point Assessment and develops a range of learning and support materials for CIPD Qualification students. She is based in Halifax, UK.David Hayden, Chartered FCIPD, is the founder of Talent Delivers, an L&D consultancy He has held a range of roles across the people profession, including managing learning and development teams and has been working with CIPD qualifications for more than 15 years. He is based in Doncaster, UK.