In answer to Gilbert Tarrab's probing questions, Didier Anzieu recalls the distinctive atmosphere of his childhood, a first analysis with Lacan, the events of May 1968 at Nanterre, his literary ambitions, and his enthusiasm for psychodrama. By turns, the discussion focuses on the concept of the body, the group and the institution, and, from a psychological viewpoint, reflects critically upon the fascination of idealizes and the struggle for power, the structure and dynamics if the social unconscious, the decline of the University, and the ecological significance of the psychoanalytic situation.